Monday, July 24, 2006

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I read a comment on a blog the other day which read something along the likes of:
"I am all for freedom of speech, but don't do it on my blog".

Basically the blog author was objecting to someone posting comments of a different point of view.

This comment typifies the Middle East - As long as you don't disagree with their view, speak all you want, but if you do disagree with them, then shut up and don't express it (you know the drill: this is our country/region/people - you don't belong here or understand the history blah blah blah).

"sigh"

Onto more idiocy....

7days printed an article yesterday commenting on how hard it was to make friends in the UAE.

Do you want to know why it is hard to make friends in the UAE (especially friends of different cultures). Cos we are a bunch of asses - simple. The socio-economic situation doesn't help either.

You generally don't see too many subcons in the more expensive places (part of the reason being they are not allowed in) even though they are about 60% of the population. You don't see many multicultural groups of friends hanging around.

The only racial mixing (on a social level) I see these days are incredibly pathetic old Brit/European guys with extremely young asian women. Just sad on every level.


Even more idoiocy.....

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5171/foocm1.jpg

Thanks to pokey for this gem - I couldn't have said it better.


And finally...

Israel is justified..... there you go - I SAID IT.

130 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I am all for freedom of speech, but don't do it on my blog".

Are you serious? How can anyone advocating free speech tell you not to speak or for that matter not post on their blog? Could it be this person doesn't understand the concept or the real meaning of free speech?

Sounds more like a relationship of convenience.

3:34 AM  
Blogger inmotion said...

and Israel is justified to do what?

Kill hundreds in the name of getting rid of terrorism as they label it when infact it is a form of resistance.

Grow up .. seriously ..

5:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Babykaos, unfortunately your blog will not allow 'other' comments let alone anonymous so I hope you see our (my wife & mine, as we're new to the blogging world) comments here. For now, arrogance is not the solution, now's the time to heal oneself and those that have been hurt or those that have been affected: these may be your own, friends, family and the nameless many. There'll always be another day to take the bull by its horns and/or tackle this matter with those you hold accountable. When that time comes, could you do it with the same arrogance you depict now? If you could, here's saluting you - We won't cite the contrary for now.

6:38 AM  
Blogger Seabee said...

This comment typifies the Middle East

EM, this isn't exclusive to the Middle east. Read other blogs from around the world and you'll see exactly the same kind of thing happening everywhere.

6:57 AM  
Blogger inmotion said...

Hennesey show me where I've portrayed arrogance in my blog and I will gladly bow my head ..

here I was thinking that I was sharing what was a lifetime having dealt with racism and on the receiving end of it no less and you accuse me of arrogance?

Excuse me but I thought that any half hearted human would see where the emotional outrage was coming from. Certainly not arrogance.

And no I don't allow anonymous commenting. I like to know whose talking.

Read my blog and get to know me before you pass such a strong judgement as calling me arrogant.

As for the other remarks,

yes those are not just family members that are effected. I am directly effected too and have been all my life.

If you were to read my blog you would see that.

Healing myself was and still is the quest of a lifetime as evidenced by my last post. As I said my family is directly affected in both countries. Palestine and Lebanon. I am the product of a displaced refugee and his now displaced wife. My children will be displaced refugees too. How dare you talk about healing when the pain is renewed and continued ever since before I was born. How dare any of you talk about finding a justification for this type of thing.

If there were to ever come another situation with which I dealt in arrogance with it?

Two years ago the Tsunami hit Indonesia and surrounding areas, one year ago almost the quake in pakistan.

I facilitated drop offs for those with no time to drop off their donations.

I collected donations and dropped them off at centers.

I sent out mass mails asking people to donate.

I volunteer every other Saturday now at a center for children with special needs. All are mostly from India, Pakistan and other similiar locations. I tutored autistic children growing up not knowing they were autistic and when they got accepted into special schools I cried with their mothers.

You know nothing of me or my situation. So back off with the talk about arrogance. If that's arrogance then I'm an idiot.


I can't see arrogance anywhere. All I see is helplessness and frustration.


I asked Em to remove his comments when I could not deal with any of this. When the shock was still alive and had over taken my entire thought process. When my father was on the highway to Syria and I hadn't heard from him and Al Jazeera announced the road had been bombed. I didn't even know he got on the plane until I saw him walking through the Gates at Dubai Airport. Try living with that.

I asked him nicely. I asked him to sympathize instead he thought it fit to cite reasons why he saw this was justified.

I don't want people like that around me or my blog. Those that cannot offer words of condolences or sympathetic ears before putting forth critique or winging I do not need.

I still asked him to be nice and to understand at least that.

He commented - How Typical after removing the post.

Tell me Earthbound Misfit how's it feel to be such a judgemental asshole sitting behind a computer screen.

Its all so easy to talk about things that don't effect you and offer opinions on something you've never experienced.

This is the last im commenting on this subject.

Mind you I never judged any of you up until now.

I am clearly posting my opinion on what's happening on my blog now. If EM still sees it fit to post his opinion well he can go screw himself for the name calling.

That is what angered me more than anything.

I've long since thought that EM's posts were ridiculous and that of a 12 year old stuck in a 30 year old's body but I respected his space and I never once placed any ill comments on his blog or called him names on mine.

So shove it all of you.

and in conclusion :

Fuck you if you think you know better.

Prove it if you can.

That's my rant for the day.

Oh ya, EM you work in the Media Industry predomninantly Lebanese controlled. I dare you to say that in front of your colleagues or management.

You're running your mouth off on blog.

7:45 AM  
Blogger Earthbound Misfit said...

LOL.

9:20 AM  
Blogger Earthbound Misfit said...

seabee, thanks for pointing that out. you are right.

I have to elaborate on that point - I mean't more along the lines of the policy of a lot of Mideast govts. You hear statements like "freedom with responsibility" which basically means - shut up if you are going to say something negative.

9:25 AM  
Blogger Earthbound Misfit said...

and oh yes,

I do whine about Dubai, if I was back home, I would whine about home, if I were anywhere else, I would whine there too.

Fact, is I am a whiny lil b***d. Never claimed otherwise.

And just to clarify, I didn't even graduate, I barely passed school.

9:32 AM  
Blogger inmotion said...

You are right, you are a whiny little bitch.

So what if you didn't pass school obviously you're still stuck in that era of your life. You haven't proved you're above passing judgementsand being the champion of the underdog.

Doesn't make me respect you at all.

You talk about how treatment is unfair in Dubai or in any other part of the world. That you would whine at home too.

For somebody that wants to seeminly speak up for the underdog or the under privlaged such as the "labour workers here" or as per your jpeg about emiratization in the private sector you really are taking a hypocritical stand.

And the fact that you haven't claimed that you're anything other than a whiny little bitch does not make your behaviour anymore bearable or tolerable or excusable. It simply isn't. For someone who criticizes so much you should take a page out of your own book.

I'm not posting on this anymore.

I see you've ignored my dare to say what you have to say to your Lebanese colleagues or to say it to my face.

Not that I'd waste anymore time than this.

10:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'You know nothing of me or my situation. So back off with the talk about arrogance. If that's arrogance then I'm an idiot'

You said this, not us.

You sound like you're the only one devastated with this tragedy in Palestine & Lebanon. You're not, there are lots of others that have lost a great deal more than you could ever imagine and when compared to now, they would seem lose change. Yet these people are healing the best they know how while there's some that keeps bleeding them emotionally.

From your comments, it seems you have a set agenda in mind: either you're with us or you're not.

What the fuck is it going accomplish by our telling you we're with you.

Buzz off. Lay off and please please please fuck off and never ever judge us or anybody else for that matter, you don't know shit about us.

Does it sound loud & clear to you?

Just so you know, we're not with you. We're with the real people from both: Palestine & Lebanon that appreciate our advice, services and what all we do instead of being ungrateful as you are because the way you rant, there's no end to pleasing the likes of you.

We won't say you're loser; that's putting it too lightly.

10:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And sorry to say BK, you don't know shit about racism.

Your work in helping those in India, Pakistan and Tsunami disaster is commendable.

We'll put in a good word to get you a medal while there are so many that do a thankless job.

Anyway thanks for your comments, they show the real you.

10:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets just imagine for one second what would be the present state of their respective countries if Gandhi, Mandela and Martin Luther King followed the same modus operandi as the Hezbollah.

- Mario

10:59 AM  
Blogger inmotion said...

My response is on my blog

11:43 AM  
Blogger Earthbound Misfit said...

On a related note...

I never knew I could inspire such hatred from someone without even meeting them....

In the immortal words of Ice Cube: "Today was a good day."

12:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BK, all we did was offer a ear of sympathy when we said ‘now’s the time to heal oneself and those that have been hurt or …. If you found this or any other words arrogant, our apologies, everything after is a result of chain reaction because it really hurts when one’s advice is mocked and you take a piss on someone that offers you a ear of sympathy. Sorry, but this is the best we know how, it works with our friends from both: Palestine & Lebanon or for that matter elsewhere.

10:16 PM  
Blogger inmotion said...

EM its not hatred.

I never liked you to begin with. I just never dismissed you for having an opinion no matter how stupid it was in my eyes.

You just demonstrated huge insensitivity.

Which just made it easy for me to tell you I don't like you at all and I never did because of 1 2 3.

Don't flatter yourself. I'm not one to waste that type of dark emotion on anyone. Hatred's much too strong in my eyes. I don't even hate the Jewish people yet and they've done much more in terms of inspiring feelings within me than you have.

Believe me had this been any other topic under the sun I would have not even commented unless I agreed with it or thought it worthy of commenting.

I would have let you say what you wanted to say.


Thanks Hennessey. It was misrepresentation. I appreciate your sympathy. That's all I really wanted to hear without the attacks.

I really do appreciate it.

10:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BK, thank you. You're an Angel. May all your dreams come true. God Bless. Take care.

EM, thank you for giving us space to post on your site.

10:56 PM  
Blogger Earthbound Misfit said...

rummyjohn,

I think you have misunderstood. no one questions the motives, it is the methods that are being questioned.

11:04 PM  
Blogger Earthbound Misfit said...

One would think, considering that this is my blog, people would be considerate enough to not post anything against my views.....

11:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

EM, our apologies if we've posted against your views on your blog. Please be assured it won't happen again. Thank you kindly, once again for the space.

11:17 PM  
Blogger Earthbound Misfit said...

Hennessy,

I don't mind if your views are against what I believe it.

You are entitled to it and I would like you to continue expressing it.

My comment was directed at certain self-righteous people who don't want any dissenting views in their blog but are more than happy to post their dissenting views and name calling on someone else's blog.

11:57 PM  
Blogger inmotion said...

Dude .. preach what you practice ..

I didn't call you names you did.

You attacked me personally.

I attacked back and I regret it now because there could have been a much more civilized way to get my point across.

I once again state this .. I asked you to remove your post because it was insensitive .. and then I gave you justification because I thought it insensitive and couldn't work out all the anger yet.

I did say that on my blog.

So you can cut out the sarcasm about you willing to listen to other people's opinions and myself not wanting to do the same.

One more time for the uninitiated in courtesy code Earthbound Misfit:

There are certain things you can go ahead and joke all you want about .. but when it comes to something this personal and on this level of magnititude you need to choose your words carefully.

Implying I was pushing around anyone or that I refused to listen to what you had to say just because I didn't believe it and asked it to be removed .. is insensitive, inconsiderate, unsympathetic, arrogant, narrow minded and just plain stupid.


And why are you referring to me like I'm not here and I haven't actively and openly pointed the finger at myself for the accusation of being an idiot with all that it implies and you kindly implied .. taking my words out of context ..

Why are you still calling me self-righteous when I have clearly been more than nice to you despite my dislike of you up until you came and called me an idiot and wanted everyone reading your blog actually believing that it was your self-righteous attitude towards your right to self speech that was under attack when a clear request for sympathy was put forward from me to you on my blog.

I'm posting aren't I?

Stop beating around the bush, quit the name calling, quit the discussion that has become futile and admit that you made a mistake.

I made the mistake of asking you to remove your opinion to begin with in such a provocative way but truth be told you just need the beginning of a thread to go off on what you think is funny and witty satire on this situation and many others. You come in to begin with, with an attitude of criticism.

I gave you that thread and you made such a big deal out of it forgetting that there was something much bigger than you and me and being asked to remove your opinion.

and would u stop implying that I've taken up residence in your blog alone to post my dissenting views that go against yours.

People are going to start thinking I'm afraid of saying it on my own space when I'm not and you know damn well that I am not.

The only reason and believe me The only reason I am still arguing this on this blog is the moral concept behind it and my need to show you and no one else that you hurt somebody's feelings, mainly mine and sincerely offended somebody and that is not cool at all.

12:19 AM  
Blogger Earthbound Misfit said...

A question to ask: If I no names were mentioned in the original post, how could it have been personal???

Anyway, logic seems wasted on certain people.

Onto more important stuff: like the joys of scratching one's nether regions.

12:28 AM  
Blogger inmotion said...

It was personal because you intended it to be by posting it knowing full well I would see it and I would know it and I would personalize it.

But nevermind that, the mere fact you posted it and then ended your post with " Israel is justified, There I said it." is implication enough of what your intentions were.

and once again you go on to show how insenstive you are by dismissing this entire argument with " logic is wasted on certain people" thus refusing to acknowledge me or what I've said in arrogance and "Onto more important stuff: like the joys of scratching one's nether regions."

as if to say scratching your equipment was more important than what anyone has to say on this topic.

How absurd.

You really are a jerk.

You take the fucking cake for insensitivity and inconsideration and arrogance and god help you immaturity and childishness.

I am so done with this.

I've said my part and you've more than helped prove my case.

12:41 AM  
Blogger Tainted Female said...

EM..

’ Let us look at how this conflict started.

The Hezbollah went into israel and kidnapped their soldiers.’


No. This conflict started long before this incident. If that’s as far back as your education on this topic goes, you should probably spend some time doing research prior to voicing an opinion on ANYTHING in this region. (I’m not the least surprised to learn you’ve not completed any higher education and barely made it through anything else – this gleams all over anything you’ve ever said, regarding this or any earlier posts you’ve made).

Try asking yourself a few questions before you open your mouth about this, starting with:

’Why did Hezbollah capture these soldiers?’

Until you’ve educated yourself a little and learned how to rationalize and debate, using that education, I shan’t be adding to this attention seeking little piss-rant of yours.

BK… Chill the fuck out. This isn’t you, at ALL. It’s unfortunate that some people don’t know you well enough to interpret your comments and thoughts with any sort of accuracy, but this sort of thing happens over and over again on the net. No matter how personal a topic is, girl, don’t let it get to you like this. Your comments here DO make you look rather arrogant and fully bias; just as much as the next guy. You’re above this – I know it, because I know you in person. The likes of EM will never know or see this. So why bother yourself?

3:28 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Oh boy are you going to get a lot of negative publicity for the very last line of your blog :P

9:22 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

err I mean very last line of this particular entry!

9:22 AM  
Blogger Earthbound Misfit said...

Tainted Female,

I seriously am beginning to think people cannot read.

I never said anything against the motives or the legitamacy of the struggle. I was criticizing the methods. And the conflict in this particular case was started by the Hezbollah. All kidnapping soldiers does is give Israel an excuse. Well done I say. I was criticizing the idoicy of this course of action.

And the only reason for this post is to point out the sheer hypocrisy and arrogance out there.

It is hypocritical to ask someone to remove his different views but yet come and post their different and abusive views on that someone's space.

And just as an FYI to all those who couldn't tell sarcasm in my earlier comment - I did actually finish more than you could guess.

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